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Some of the franchises in the franchise list overlap, resulting in some movies' grosses counting towards multiple franchises. This is not a mistake. The short explanation is that this is how the franchise deals work and how our sources do it.
Not done:: Appears to be another BOM double-counting issue. I have disabled the original url so the source should be clearer now. Betty Logan (talk) 06:35, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That film is currently in release and at the time the editor wrote the above it was listed as having grossed slightly below US$2 billion. Seems like a reasonable deduction. TompaDompa (talk) 23:47, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Why BOM and The numbers not updating HK & Macau figures for the movie? It's been more than a week but no update I see. Some media reported the numbers for the first four days in HK however no update regarding the matter until now.
Are there no other source to rely on than these two ?
And do anyone knows how much the movie has gross after more than a week of its debut in HK & Macau? How do we get those numbers if the BOM and The numbers don't update? Arorapriyansh333 (talk) 08:33, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at the list, one can't help but notice a) Box Office Mojo (BOM) is by far the most cited source, and b) the long list of footnotes explaining all the problems and errors with BOM, and the (skirting-with-OR?) actions taken as apparent remedies? Should BOM still be considered as a reliable source? Is BOM the only website we can rely on here? Or are there others? What would we do if BOM went offline tomorrow? Thanks
(While all are obviously welcome to respond, I'm particularly interested in Betty Logan's reply, considering the extensive work she has put into this page.) - \\'cԼF00:58, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If BOM went offline tomorrow we would still have the archived sources, and also The Numbers. The problem with The Numbers is that it doesn't track films for as long (and it often ignores re-releases), so we ultimately end up with less accurate figures. Even with all of its problems, BOM is still by far the most accurate and comprehensive source. We can identify the double-counting issue and address it, although it is far from ideal. If there was another comprehensive source available I would advocate switching in a heartbeat. What gets me is that BOM actually charges for premium access—it's a travesty and possibly fraudulent that they know they are selling corrupted data! Betty Logan (talk) 01:28, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Another source for Hong Kong (particularly relevant for Ne Zha 2)
The Hong Kong Trade Development Council keeps track of the box office numbers in Hong Kong every week, which they post on this page. Their figures are in HKD only, but Wikipedia has templates to convert HKD to USD (here and here). Also note that HKD is pegged to USD within a narrow band (1 USD equals between 7.75 and 7.85 HKD). It appears that HKTDC updates their information much more frequently than Box Office Mojo does for Hong Kong, so this might be useful as an alternative source, since people have been talking about that. If so, the HKTDC page might need to be archived weekly, as I'm not sure whether there is an easily accessible archive of previous weeks. 2001:56A:F06C:F200:3840:48A8:AD61:90AE (talk) 06:48, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It appears that the Chinese gross is being taken from the Chinese source and the grosses for the other territories are being taken from Box Office Mojo. It's a slightly unusual approach but it is permitted per WP:CALC. Betty Logan (talk) 04:24, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Betty Logan But Mojo seem to have stopped reporting North American box office figures for the film since March 11 Tuesday for strange reasons though the film is still earning a decent sum according to trade analyst Luiz Fernando in his March 17 post. [1] Its been over a two week and no updates by them when usually they update 2-3 times a week. Also no updates from SE Asian markets yet such as Singapore which has finished two weeks since its debut in 6 march and Malaysia since 13 March. I'm not sure if they will update the numbers as similar incidents were observed with One Piece Film: Red where they suddenly stopped updating its domestic figure after 10 days for no reason. Arorapriyansh333 (talk) 14:45, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not done:: Appears to be another BOM double-counting issue. I have disabled the original url so the source should be clearer now. Betty Logan (talk) 06:35, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
